Fight Intolerance, Not Faith
28 May, 2007
Dear Ali Sina
Let me ask you a sincere question. Why is it that people who are
smart enough to see through the lies of Muhammad find it so hard
to comprehend that all religions are the different versions of
the same untruth? Does it really take rocket science to figure
out that all the surviving religions that we have now, and all
the extinct ones that we once had, were all created by men? Why
did this man want to convert out of Islam into another false,
man-made system masquerading as religion from god?
Come on, we are not talking about a bunch of ignorant peasants
living in some remote village cut-off from civilisation. These
are seemingly smart people able to operate a computer and type
in legible sentences and express themselves reasonably well.
What part of their brains are they not using when evaluating
religious claims? I think what we need to do is find a cure for
this lack of critical thinking when it comes to religion that
has now become chronic among vast sections of society. Muslims
are not the only ones to blame for this process of
"non-thinking".
Now, coming to your claim about Islam collapsing within our own
lifetime, I think you are being over-optimistic. Sure, Islam
will collapse but only when the time comes- which I believe will
take yet another 500 to 1000 years from now. Islam will go down
along with all other religions that sell the same illogical,
irrational fairy tale nonsense, but in different bottles. If you
made that claim only to get our spirits high then I can
understand that. Nothing works like comforting words of hope and
optimism coming from someone we trust and adore. But I think we
still need to be realistic when we make such statements.
Of course Islam can collapse in a day, but only if Mecca were to
be occupied and Muhammad's mosque reduced to a rubble and the
Kaaba destroyed beyond repair. Maybe something drastic like that
unfolding in front of Muslims' eyes might wake them up to the
hoax they have been played on
Ali Sina's Response:
Truth and lie are subjective. Assuming there is something
called truth; does anyone have access to it? All humans were born
ignorant. As we grow and learn new things our grasp of truth
expands. What we considered true yesterday does no longer seem
true today and it is likely that tomorrow we will believe in
something else.
The cells that compose your body are constantly dying and are
replaced by new ones. This happens constantly. Within seven years,
your entire body is replaced.
Our thoughts are replaced also in the same way. Every day we learn
new things and as the result slightly change our mind. This change
may seem imperceptible. However, if you look back you’ll realize
how much you have changed. Change is inevitable. The only people
who do not change are those who do not learn. Change is the
necessity of all living beings. Only fossils and fossilized minds
remain unchanged.
So, when you talk about truth, which truth are you talking about?
The truth that you believed at the age of six, or the truth that
you upheld at the age of sixteen? Do you still believe in what you
believed when you were six or sixteen? Your truth kept changing
and it will continue changing as long as you are alive and are
learning.
I can tell you that if there was a time machine and I had the
opportunity to go back and meet my younger self of 15 years ago, I
and myself would have had a big argument and both of us would have
parted disappointed of each other. The younger me would have
pitied the older me for being so godless and the older me would
have felt sorry for the younger me for wasting his time holding
unto absurdities.
You say “all religions are the different versions of the same
untruth.” And how can we be sure that you or I have found the
truth? What I hold to be truth has been changing and it will
continue to change. What if tomorrow I find out that whatever I
believe today is not true?
The problem, as I see it, is not in the fact that people believe
in different truths. Of course not all views can be true. However,
since agreeing upon which truth is the right one is impossible, I
propose we agree to disagree. Let’s believe in what we want to
believe and let others believe in what they want to believe. It
really does not matter who is right and who is wrong. What matters
is that we learn to live with each other in harmony despite the
differences of opinion that exist between us.
Polytheistic societies believe in variety of “truths”. Each group
has its own god and yet they tolerate each other’s beliefs.
Although they may fight over other things, religious fights in
polytheistic societies are uncommon. People started fighting over
religion when monotheism was introduced. Then the truth became the
monopoly of only one group. The fact is that even the monotheists
do not agree with each other and each group has its own only true
god by virtue of whom they wage war and killed others.
The downfall of humanity began when they started thinking that
there is only one god and one truth. Millions of lives have been
lost because of this belief. If there is one curse affecting
humanity is this belief. It is not the belief in God that is evil.
It is the belief in the monopoly of the truth that is evil. People
do not kill one another because they believe in God but because
they think they are the only people who are right and that those
who are wrong deserve to die.
The belief in the monopoly of truth is not exclusive to
monotheistic religions. Communism was an atheistic doctrine par
excellence. Yet because it had the religious belief that only
communism is true, the communists killed and tortured those who
disagreed with them by millions.
The problem that humanity is facing today is neither the belief in
God nor in disbelief in God. Our problem is intolerance. Our
problem is the belief that truth is only one and that only “we”
own it. The belief in the exclusivity of truth is the root of all
the evil affecting humanity.
Assuming there is a truth, it is not accessible to you and I.
Truth is infinite and we are finite. It is only logical that the
infinite cannot be contained or comprehended by finite being.
I have my own beliefs that are by the way changing constantly.
That is why I do not preach them. Today I am convinced of them,
but tomorrow I may not be. I confess to my ignorance. I know that
I do not know. So what is it that I much preach and promote? My
ignorance?
No, I will not promote my ignorance. I let people believe in what
they choose to believe and I respect them and their choices, even
if those choices seem silly and false to me.
The stupidest thing we humans can do is to fight over the truth.
How can we fight over something we do not and can never have?
“Truth” is as real as the invisible cloak of the emperor. It only
exists in your imagination and fantasies. What you see and
describe as truth is as much false as what the person next to you
sees as truth. All beliefs are false, including yours and mine.
This is the nature of belief, because if they were true, they
would be facts and you do not need to believe in facts. You KNOW
them.
There is nothing more evil than trying to fight the beliefs that
we do not believe. What we must fight against is intolerance.
Atheists can be as intolerant as religionists. Assuming one day
you have the power, the way Stalin had in USSR had, what would you
do with those who do not agree with your version of truth and want
to believe in what you regard to be false and irrational? Will you
try to impose your version of truth on others by force? What are
you proposing we should do? Should we ban people whom you think
are irrational and censor what they write the way Mao, Stalin, Pol
Pot, Castro and Kim Jon Il did/do?
I do not see any problem in the belief in God. If this belief
makes people happy, who am I to stop them? Why should I stop them?
The belief in God gives them comfort. It has helped innumerable
people to overcome their handicaps. Addicts and other substance
dependants have used God to overcome their problem and rebuild
their lives. The belief in God has definite psychological and
emotional benefits.
You say all religions are the different versions of the same
untruth. Are they really? Are all religions alike? It would be
very unfair to say such a thing. In fact this claim is the biggest
untruth. If we must strive to fight all untruths, then we must
fight with yours as well.
The truth is that all religions are not alike. Santa clause and
Dracula may have one thing in common. Both of them are figments of
fantasy. There ends their similarity. Santa is an old jolly man
who brings gifts to children and makes everyone happy. Dracula
sucks the blood of people and reduces them into zombies. Can we
say Santa and Dracula are similar?
There is nothing wrong in believing in fairytales. What you
believe to be true and hold on to so fast is also fairytale. You
are just as much ignorant of the truth as are the people of faith.
We are all ignorant of the truth. If we knew the truth, there
would be no need to learn anything new. What is truly evil is
intolerance. That is what we have to fight and eliminate, not
fairytales. The moment you think you have found the truth and
therefore you have the right to silence anyone who disagrees with
you, you are intolerant.
I do not fight Islam because it is false, ridiculous and absurd. I
fight it because it is intolerant. It makes no difference to me
whether you are a Muslim, a fascist, a communist, believe in God,
or don’t believe in God. If you think you have found the truth and
as such are intolerant of people who think differently, I will be
your enemy number one.
As for your second question, the answer is no, Islam will not
survive another 500 to 1000 years as you think. The days of Islam
are numbered. Islam will be history within a few short decades. If
I live my natural life, I will see the end of Islam. You are very
wrong. Islam is not the same thing as other religions in different
bottle. Other religions will outlive Islam by hundreds of years.
They have still a lot to offer to those who believe in them. Islam
on the other hand has nothing to offer. It is sustained by
instilling fear of hell and that is it. Islam is a fear based
cult. Once this fear is dissipated and the mask from the face of
the bogyman Allah is removed, Muslims will leave Islam en masse.
The exodus from Islam has already begun. It is gaining momentum
and soon it will be transformed into an avalanche.
However, I do not believe in magic. Things do not happen on their
own. We must make them happen. Defeating Islam prior to the
invention of the Internet would have been nearly impossible. With
the Internet, however, we have the tool we need to eradicate Islam
fast. All we need to destroy darkness is light. Muslims are
leaving Islam and are joining our rank to fight Islam. We are
growing exponentially.
Do you remember Hussein who tried to cause rift between me and Mr.
Spencer?
See this.
He has finally left Islam.
See this.
Many people are leaving Islam every day. Some of them write to
tell us about it, but most of them don’t. The majority of those
who leave Islam do not even know FFI. One thing is certain and
that is Islam is the fastest dying religion. Islam will collapse,
and you will see its end.
Ali Sina is the Editor of Faithfreedom.org. He is has contributed in 'Beyond Jihad - Critical Voices from Inside Islam'. His upcoming book is Understanding Islam and the Muslim Mind.