Why Muslims Love Hitler, Not Mozart?
13 May, 2009
“If any culture needs to be preserved, it is the Western, Helleno-Christian culture. It is this culture that is facing extinction. It is to this culture alone that we owe the Enlightenment, Renaissance, and democracy. These are the foundations of our modern world. It would be a terrible mistake not to preserve this culture. If we do nothing, we face a future where democracy and tolerance will fade and Islam’s more primitive instincts will subjugate humanity. All cultures are not made equal … We owe our freedom and modern civilization to Western culture. It is this culture that is now under attack and needs protection.”
As a native European, it is strange to notice how many
(non-Muslim) Asians apparently appreciate my civilization more these
days than so-called intellectuals in my own country do. It is
challenging to explain how the West could make so many advances in
the past and yet be as stupid as it currently is. The question of
what went wrong with the West is far more interesting than what went
wrong with the Islamic world. The best answer I can come up with is
that maybe our current flaws are related to our past virtues, at
least indirectly. For instance, being stubborn can be a strength or
a weakness, depending upon the situation. The West is a
non-traditionalist civilization. We have unquestionably made
advances that no other civilization has done before us, despite what
some critics claim, but perhaps the price we pay for this is that we
also make mistakes that nobody has done before us. Organized science
is a Western invention. Organized national suicide, too, is a
Western invention. The Western university system once represented a
great comparative advantage for Europe vis-à-vis other
civilizations. Today that same system is undermining the very
civilization that gave birth to it.
Since European civilization is so far the only civilization to have
had a truly global impact, this means that all other civilizations
have to face the challenge of dealing with a layer of impulses and
ideas which are not their own. There is no doubt that this has been
a disruptive process in many cases, but it is also true that
different non-Western cultures deal very differently with the
Western challenge and appropriate very different parts of its
heritage.
The Arabs had no significant pictorial tradition of their own even
before Islam. The Islamic ban on pictorial arts was not always
enforced, just like the ban on alcoholic beverages was not always
strictly enforced, but pictorial arts were discouraged and
consequently never occupied a prominent place in that culture. Some
Muslim rulers could interpret the religious rules regarding the
depiction of human figures quite liberally. A tradition for book
illustration and miniature painting did develop, but it is important
to remember that even the paintings that did exist were intended as
illustrations of a text and were almost never designed for
exhibition on a wall or in a gallery. Historian Bernard Lewis
explains in his book What Went Wrong?:
“One of the attractions of Western art and particularly of Western portraiture must surely have been the use of perspective, which made possible a degree of realism and accuracy unattainable in the stylized and rather formal art of the traditional miniature … In the late eighteenth and early nineteenth century, Western influence becomes very clear, both in the structure of buildings and in their interior decoration. By the nineteenth century it is almost universal, to such a degree that the older artistic traditions were dying and being replaced by this new art from Europe. As the perception and measurement of space affected the visual arts, so too did the perception and measurement of time affect music – though to a much lesser extent … A distinguishing characteristic of Western music is polyphony, by harmony or counterpoint … Different performers play together, from different scores, producing a result that is greater than the sum of its parts. With a little imagination one may discern the same feature in other aspects of Western culture – in democratic politics and in team games, both of which require the cooperation, in harmony if not in unison, of different performers playing different parts in a common purpose.”
In contrast, here is what Lewis writes in The Middle East: A Brief History of the Last 2,000 Years:
“Since Muslim worship, with the limited exception of some dervish orders, makes no use of music, musicians in the Islamic lands lacked the immense advantage enjoyed by Christian musicians through the patronage of the Church and of its high dignitaries. The patronage of the court and of the great houses, though no doubt useful, was intermittent and episodic, and dangerously subject to the whims of the mighty. Muslim musicians devised no standard system of notation, and their compositions are therefore known only by the fallible and variable medium of memory. There is no preserved corpus of classical Islamic music comparable with that of the European musical tradition. All that remains is a quite extensive theoretical literature on music, some descriptions and portrayals of musicians and musical occasions by writers and artists, a number of old instruments in various stages of preservation, and of course the living memory of long-past performances.”
There are those who are critical of Mr. Lewis as a scholar and
consequently believe that he shouldn’t be quoted as an authority.
You should always maintain a healthy criticism of any scholar, but I
know from other sources that the above mentioned quotes are largely
correct.
Many forms of music are banned in Islam. The Reliance of the
Traveller by Ahmad Ibn Lulu Ibn Al-Naqib and Noah Ha Mim Keller
has been formally approved by al-Azhar in Egypt, the highest
institution of religious learning among Sunni Muslims. It quotes a
number of ahadith, authoritative sayings of Muhammad and his
companions which form the core Islamic texts next to the Koran,
among them one which says that “There will be peoples of my
Community who will hold fornication, silk, wine, and musical
instruments to be lawful …” Another quote says that: “On the Day of
Resurrection, Allah will pour molten lead into the ears of whoever
sits listening to a songstress.” The scholarly conclusion is that
“All of this is explicit and compelling textual evidence that
musical instruments of all types are unlawful.” Another legal ruling
says that “It is unlawful to use musical instruments – such as those
which drinkers are known for, like the mandolin, lute, cymbals, and
flute – or to listen to them. It is permissible to play the
tambourine at weddings, circumcisions, and other times, even if it
has bells on its sides. Beating the kuba, a long drum with a narrow
middle, is unlawful.”
Moreover, while I do disagree with Mr. Lewis sometimes, in my
experience he occasionally errs by being too positive when writing
about Islamic culture, not too negative. If you believe Lewis, “The
earliest specifically anti-Semitic statements in the Middle East
occurred among the Christian minorities, and can usually be traced
back to European originals.” This view fits well with the
anti-European, Multicultural bias of modern media and academia, yet
it is completely and utterly wrong, as Dr. Andrew G. Bostom has
conclusively demonstrated in his extremely well-researched book
The Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism.
Dehumanizing Jews
as apes (Koran 2:65/7:166), or apes and pigs (Koran 5:60) has
been common throughout Islamic history, more than 1300 years before
the establishment of the state of Israel. Muhammad himself referred
to the Medinan Jews of the Banu Qurayza as “apes” before
orchestrating the slaughter of all of their men. As one Muslim
living in Germany
said, “Jews are the enemy of Allah.” Referring to Adolf Hitler
he stated: “The man was a hero, almost a Muslim. I'm one of his
fans.” A disproportionate amount of Europeans who convert to Islam
are neo-Nazis or Communists.
In 2005, Hitler’s autobiography Mein Kampf was among the
top
bestsellers in Turkey, behind a book about a Turkish national
hero detonating a nuclear bomb in Washington D.C. Adolf Hitler
remains widely popular in many other Islamic countries, too. At the
same time, Turkish PM Erdogan stressed that Islamophobia must be
treated as “a crime against humanity.” It is banned by law to
discuss the Armenian genocide in Turkey, a genocide that allegedly
inspired the Nazis in their Holocaust against Jews. Would a country
the size of Germany, with a history of a thousand years of
continuous warfare against its neighbors and where Adolf Hitler is a
bestselling author, be hailed as a moderate, Christian country?
The earliest evidence we have of musical instruments dates back to
the Old Stone Age. We know that there were rich musical traditions
in ancient Mesopotamia, Egypt, India, China and elsewhere.
Indirectly, it is possible that some aspects of Babylonian musical
theory and practice influenced the Greek, and by extension European,
musical tradition. The ancient Greeks had a number of musical
instruments such as harps, horns, lyres, drums, cymbals etc. Greek
music theory evolved continually from Pythagoras before 500 BC to
Aristides Quintilianus in the late third century AD, whose treatise
De musica (On Music) is an important source of knowledge of
the Greek musical tradition.
Music was closely connected to astronomy in Pythagorean thought; the
great astronomer Claudius Ptolemy wrote on music. Mathematical laws
and proportions were considered the underpinnings of both musical
intervals and the heavenly bodies. Plato and Aristotle both argued
that education should stress gymnastics to discipline the body and
music to discipline the mind. Plato was, as usual, the stricter of
the two and would only allow certain types of music for limited
purposes, lest it could distort the mind. He asserted that musical
conventions must not be changed, since lawlessness in art leads to
anarchy. Aristotle was less restrictive and argued that music could
be used for enjoyment as well as for education. For the Romans,
music was a part of most public ceremonies and was featured in
entertainment and education.
The Christian Church was the dominant social institution in
post-Roman Europe and deeply affected the future development of
European music. The ancient Greek system of notation had apparently
been forgotten by the seventh century AD, when Isidore of Seville
(ca. 560-636) wrote that “Unless sounds are remembered by man, they
perish, for they cannot be written down.” But with the development
of complex chants, what was needed to stabilize them was notation, a
way to write down the music. The earliest surviving European books
of chant with music notation date from the ninth century. During the
early Christian era, the Classical legacy was used, but modified.
From the Jews came the practices of singing psalms and chanting
Scripture. Church leaders drew on Greek musical theory but rejected
pagan customs, and elevated worship over entertainment and singing
over instrumental music.
It is instructive to consider the fact that Middle Eastern Muslims,
too, had access to Greek musical theory, yet they decided not use
it, just like they did not utilize the Greek artistic legacy. Both
music and pictorial arts were integrated into religious worship in
Christian Europe in a way that never happened in the Islamic world.
In fact, it was Gregorian chant and the growth of polyphonic music
in medieval European monasteries and cathedrals which established
the musical tradition that would eventually culminate in the works
of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart and Ludwig van Beethoven centuries later.
There was no Mozart or Beethoven in the Islamic world, just like
there was no Copernicus, Galileo or Newton.
The invention of musical notation enabled musicians to build upon
the work of the past. It may have been a necessary
condition for the expansion and development of musical expression,
but it is not alone sufficient to explain later advances. The
discovery of the connection between mathematical ratios and musical
intervals attributed to Pythagoras – and independently the Chinese –
was important, but not as important as polyphony. According to
Charles Murray, “Just as linear perspective added depth to the
length and breadth of painting, polyphony added, metaphorically, a
vertical dimension to the horizontal line of melody.”
China had a well-developed musical tradition at least as far back as
the Zhou period (1122-256 BC). Chinese opera is generally familiar
to outsiders is, but this art form dates from the early centuries of
the current era, especially from early medieval times (the Tang
Dynasty). Music played a central role in the Chinese court life
during the sixth and fifth centuries BC, at the time of Confucius.
It was believed by early thinkers to have great moral powers,
although some forms of music were better than others for promoting
harmony. The word “music” was written with the same character as
“enjoyment.”
According to The Cambridge Illustrated History of China by
Patricia Buckley Ebrey, “Archaeologists have unearthed quite a few
sets of instruments used in court performances in Zhou times. Key
instruments were stone chimes, bronze drums, stringed lute-like
instruments, bamboo flutes, and sets of bells, struck from the
outside. The biggest cache of instruments was discovered in the tomb
(c. 433 BC) of Marquis Yi of Zeng, ruler of a petty state in modern
Hubei just north of the great state of Chu. In the tomb were 124
instruments, including drums, flutes, mouth organs, pan pipes,
zithers, a 32-chime lithophone, and a 64-piece bell set. The zithers
have from five to twenty-five strings and vary in details of their
construction; they may have come from different regions and been
used for performances of regional music. The bells bear inscriptions
that indicate their pitches and reveal that they were gifts from the
king of Chu. The precision with which the bells were cast indicates
that the art of bell-making had reached a very advanced state.”
There is no direct equivalent to Mozart or Beethoven in Asia, but
perhaps the fact that they have such an ancient and deeply-rooted
native tradition makes in easier for the Chinese to appreciate the
fruits of other musical cultures. Many East Asians are at the turn
of the twenty-first century eagerly appropriating the best
traditions of European Classical music.
David P. Goldman writes under the pen name “Spengler”
as a columnist for the Asia Times Online. He thinks that
“The present shift in intellectual capital in favor of the East has
no precedent in world history.” According to him, European Classical
music “produces better minds, and promotes success in other fields.”
This is because “Western classical music does something that
mathematics and physics cannot: it allows us to play with time
itself.”
There is some basis for these statements.
Albert Einstein
received a thorough philosophical education by studying the thoughts
of Kant, Schopenhauer and Spinoza in addition to the physical
theories of Isaac Newton, Michael Faraday and James Maxwell. It
taught him how to think abstractly about space and time. “The
independence created by philosophical insight is - in my opinion -
the mark of distinction between a mere artisan or specialist and a
real seeker after truth,” Einstein once wrote. He was an
accomplished amateur musician as well, and would furiously play his
violin as a way of thinking through a difficult physics problem.
A strikingly high proportion of the students at top Western musical
schools are now Asians, followed by Eastern Europeans. For some
reason, there are comparatively few North Americans or Western
Europeans among the best instrumentalists, in Spengler’s view
because many of them simply don’t have the discipline to practice
eight hours a day. One of China’s most famous musicians at the
moment is the pianist Lang Lang (born 1982).
According
to Spengler, “the Chinese nation that looks to Lang Lang as one
of its heroes is learning the high culture of the West with a
collective sense of wonder. Something more than the mental mechanics
of classical music makes this decisive for China. In classical
music, China has embraced the least Chinese, and the most explicitly
Western, of all art forms. Even the best Chinese musicians still
depend on Western mentors. Lang Lang may be a star, but in some
respects he remains an apprentice in the pantheon of Western
musicians. The Chinese, in some ways the most arrogant of peoples,
can elicit a deadly kind of humility in matters of learning. Their
eclecticism befits an empire that is determined to succeed, as
opposed to a mere nation that needs to console itself by sticking to
its supposed cultural roots. Great empires transcend national
culture and naturalize the culture they require….Except in a vague
way, one cannot explain the uniqueness of Western classical music to
non-musicians, and America is governed not by musicians, but by
sports fans.”
Other civilizations most easily appropriate that in Western culture
which speaks to them and which resonates with their own heritage.
Westerners have virtually nothing in common with Muslims. While
different, we can find common ground with Hindus, Buddhists and
Christian Asians when it comes to pictorial arts, for instance,
while we share absolutely nothing in this field with Muslims since
Islam is rather hostile to many forms of music and most forms of
art.
I don’t think it’s bigotry to state that Beethoven and Mozart
represent a peak in the world history of music, not just in the
European tradition. But the great European composers lived in the
seventeenth, eighteenth, nineteenth and early twentieth centuries,
when Europe clearly was the leading region on the planet in science
and technology. There appears to be a close correlation between the
sciences and the arts. Perhaps it has something to do with cultural
confidence and sense of purpose, or lack of such. In the early
twenty-first century, not only do Europeans not produce composers
that are anywhere near the stature of a Mozart or a Beethoven; many
of us do not even listen to the works of great composers we once
produced.
Very few young people in Western Europe seriously study European
Classical music these days. Asians thus adopt the highest cultural
achievements of European civilization at a time when many people of
European descent themselves appear to be on the verge of forgetting
them, which is symbolic on many levels. On the other hand, Asians
are more or less immune to the self-loathing of the contemporary
West. I see this as a sign that they appropriate the best aspects of
the Western traditions but stay away from the worst ones, which
makes sense.
It is sad that people from other cultures sometimes copy our bad
ideas such as Communism more readily than our good ones, of which we
do have many. I don’t by that mean to imply that Europeans alone
“invented” totalitarianism. The Incas practiced something resembling
Communism in South America. While I may be critical of aspects of
Confucianism, I don’t think it can properly be called totalitarian.
Totalitarianism in the true sense of the word does, however, have a
native Chinese precedent in the ideology of Legalism, which was
supported by the state of China’s brutal First Emperor. There is a
reason why the Communist dictator Mao Zedong (1893-1976) personally
identified with the First Emperor, not with Confucius.
Despotism comes quite natural to Islamic culture. When confronted
with the European tradition, many Muslims freely prefer Adolf Hitler
to Rembrandt, Michelangelo or Beethoven. Westerners don’t force them
to study Mein Kampf more passionately than Leonardo da
Vinci's Mona Lisa or Goethe’s Faust; they choose
to do so themselves. Millions of (non-Muslim) Asians now study
Mozart’s piano pieces. Muslims, on the other hand, like Mr. Hitler
more, although he represents one of the most evil ideologies that
have ever existed in Europe. The fact that they usually like the
Austrian Mr. Hitler more than the Austrian Mr. Mozart speaks volumes
about their culture. Koreans, Japanese, Chinese and Middle Eastern
Muslims have been confronted with the same body of ideas, yet choose
to appropriate radically different elements from it, based upon what
is compatible with their own culture.
One of these cultures has a future, the other one does not.
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Fjordman is based in Norway. He contributes in Brussels Journal, Gates of Vienna, Faith Freedom International and Jihad Watch amongst other Websites. His is the author of Defeating Eurabia.
Name: Malek
Subject: Western Culture considered the Best !!!? No way!
Date: Wednesday May 13, 2009
Time: 00:15:39 -0400
Comment
I admire their advances, their achievements, their dedications but The Western World has no respect for "CULTURE", they have no culture, Maybe the word you are looking for is "Western Civilisation". "Want to know about somebody's future, look at his past!", And Western past is not very good, is it!? You pointed out scientist, philosophers, musicians why not point out the dark side of the Western World, your alienation of other cutures, the extermination of the American indians, etc.....
Name:
Subject:
Date: Wednesday May 13, 2009
Time: 00:59:55 -0400
Comment
Faithful Muslims will not tolarate Hitler for all those sufferings that he caused. They gave refuge in Palastine to those who suffered. But after ww2 the refugees wanted to stay permanantly and evicting those who gave them refuge. It is those evicted Palastinians who love Hitler.
Name: duh_swami
Subject: Malek, and the wests 'dark side'.
Date: Wednesday May 13, 2009
Time: 01:13:35 -0400
Comment
the extermination of the American indians, etc..... American Indians suffered abuse, but they were hardly exterminated...They now own casinos...And the west's past? How about trains, planes and automobiles, not to mention televisions and cellphones...really dark stuff...hot dogs, hamburgers, shoe fly pie and apple pan douty...Elvis...Hollywood, and Barack H Obama...Scary huh...
Name: selvi
Subject: persih the evil
Date: Wednesday May 13, 2009
Time: 03:16:21 -0400
Comment
I change the "Q' book evil lines as below."perished be the two hands of islam ,hate and ignorence and let it persih.All the its property of destruction ,hate,intolerence and voilence be burned in takewood fire".Let all moslums in ignorence and dilusions and in fear of pseudo hell be enlithtened about the truth of light.
Name: greek thought was directly coming from india,and india can be world ally against islam
Subject: greek thought was directly coming from india,and india can be world ally against islam
Date: Wednesday May 13, 2009
Time: 03:42:53 -0400
Comment
greek thought was directly coming from india,and india can be world ally against islam.also democracy was practiced in kuffar india over 3000 yrs ago known as ganarajya-people' rule.so the west is not the only originator of freedom.also freedom of worship and frreedom from rleigion atheism is a gift to world from india,where jews,zorastrians etc r free to worship.finally atheism a so called modern concept is not modern at all,and many saints [ yes saints ] like rishi charavak etc openly said there is no god and nature is all that exists.and if there is a god that is nature,and this oevr 3000 yrs ago,atheism-naturalism was practiced in india.so india will be most valuable ally against islam.bcoz it is the only culture that withstood the assault of christianity/islam over last 2000 yrs.so we must kuffar paganism=nature worship stronger and finally overthrow christianity/islam and establish truth again.JAI KUFFAR HIND
Name: Anti Clot
Subject: No-Culture of Islam
Date: Wednesday May 13, 2009
Time: 03:45:27 -0400
Comment
Islam is against music, painting, sculpture, tattooing, dancing and even printing had been strictly forbidden for more than 200 years. I won 't say that the islamic world has no culture at all, however, all the culture there does not exist because of islam but in spite of islam. In Indonesia, for example, the famous arts of shadow plays was surpressed by islam. Worst of all, the average muslim of today never reads a book in his life. Thatś why most arab writers publish in english or french.
Name: vbv
Subject:
Date: Wednesday May 13, 2009
Time: 06:54:20 -0400
Comment
Muslims like Hitler ,because he comes close to Muhamad in the idealogy of racism and destruction of all other cultures and way of life. Afetr all islam is a cult to promote arab chauvinism and to denigrate and subjugate all other races. Ofcourse even Hitler cannot hold a candle to the sheer destructiveness of Muhamad and his islam, above all the sheer lechery and rapaciousness of Muhamad is inmatched in the annals of history. Even the likes of Genghis Khan, Atilla the Hun or Stalin, POlPot,Mao etc would pale into insignificance before Muhamad. That is why muslims say"peace be unto him" everytime they call out the name of Muhamad their fake 'prophet'. They are shit-scared even after 1400 years that his ghost will go on a rampage if they don't say "peace upon him" everytime they mention his name. Imagine the sheer savagery of this psychopath that 400 years have not diminished the fear of facing his irrational and fiery wrath. No other 'prophet' or godman can evoke such fear ,especially that when he has zealots even today ready to murder,loot,rape and destroy in his name. That is the influence of this mad ,extreme bigotry.
Name: to kuffar vbv...good one u scored 101/100 my friend !!!!!
Subject: to kuffar vbv...good one u scored 101/100 my friend !!!!!
Date: Wednesday May 13, 2009
Time: 06:58:43 -0400
Comment
to kuffar vbv...good one u scored 101/100 my friend !!!!! yr explanation is SPOT ONE !!! jai kuffar hindu,vande bharat mataram [ zakir kaskar ex-muslim ]
Name: do houries have pubic hair or they r clean under there ????
Subject: do houries have pubic hair or they r clean under there ????
Date: Wednesday May 13, 2009
Time: 07:03:06 -0400
Comment
do houries have pubic hair or they r clean under there ???? no book gives proper reply,so do any clit dik have any reply ?
Name: balam
Subject: why Muslims love Hitler, Not Mozart
Date: Wednesday May 13, 2009
Time: 08:41:48 -0400
Comment
There are more common traits between Mohammad and Hitler than Mohammad and Mozart.Mohammad was a fascist,so was Hitler.Mohammad brought in totallatarian ideology called Islam or Mohammadanism,where as HITLLER introduced Nazism .Nazism was destroyed after w.w 2 and it is the turn of Mohammadanism now.This cult can not go on for ever.The Western world has no respect for the Mohammadan culture after 9/11 ,because its true face has been exosed,which is extremely ugly and evil.Both Mohammad and Hitler were evil men.Hitler was slighly more moral.He did not rape women and cetainly not a pedophile.Mozart was a creative genius and Mohammad was a destructive genius.
Name: duh_swami
Subject: To vbv...Hitler and MO...
Date: Wednesday May 13, 2009
Time: 08:53:15 -0400
Comment
Ofcourse even Hitler cannot hold a candle to the sheer destructiveness of Muhamad and his islam,............. Just think what Mohammad could have done had he been mechanized...some tanks, and a few bombers would have carried him a long way...but you are right, as destructive as Hitler was with his mechanization, Mohammad was more destructive without it. One reason is that Hitlers destruction only lasted a few years, while Mohammad's started in 600+ and is still going to this day. There are several causes for this, two basics are, dividing the world into dar al-Islam, and dar al-harb, and Quran 8:39...'Fight them 'until' all worship Allah...' 'Until' has never been achieved, and is not going to be achieved, so perpetual warfare is the result...'We are going to fight you until you worship Allah'...Another way of saying that is 'the floggings will continue until morale improves'...That's Islam, and both Mohammad's and Hitler's Motto...
Name: Shiva Worshipper
Subject: Allah is the Moonlight for Muslims in the Knowledge Night
Date: Wednesday May 13, 2009
Time: 10:12:02 -0400
Comment
Little knowledge and little light always play game with mind, dangerous things may appear as blessings from Heaven and that’s exactly what happens in the moonlight of Allah knowledge and wisdom. If in the night people are lost in a jungle and are desperate to get out, suddenly they may see a broad open road at a distance and may run with joy towards it, thinking it to be a way out of the jungle but its trick of the moonlight which is playing on their mind, in reality it is not the broad open road, it is a deep river which is filled with crocodiles. The river will drown you and crocodiles will eat you alive. Muslim society believe in using force and knowledge of dark ages as a solution to all problems, their torture start from birth when their private parts are cut down for sake of religion, and suffering continues all life. Then Koran and Mosques are offered to them as way out from suffering and to a desperate mind this dangerous river looks like a wide open road in the jungle. Once they jump into this river, they drown deeper into misery and eaten alive by religious, political and business dealers who keep using them for their own benefit and agenda.
Name: Shiva Worshipper 2
Subject: Allah is the Moonlight for Muslims in the Knowledge Night
Date: Wednesday May 13, 2009
Time: 10:12:52 -0400
Comment
If Muslims or anyone in general want to cross the river of misinformation then do not depend on the free moonlight or shortcuts for better life being offered, Goods things are not always for free, you need to work for them and earn them. Make a torch of reasoning, and logic for yourself and use scientific knowledge and investigation as a boat to cross the river of misinformation and brainwashing. To guide yourself you can take some good values and morals from religions like Christianity and Hinduism and I mean only good values and morals which you can agree with. God gave you brain, so use it like a filter, drink the tea and throw the tea leaves away or there will be indigestion. Try to be a good human first, and then something else like good Muslim, Hindu or Christen. As a fellow human, it was my moral responsibility to warn you that “In the moonlight of Allah, what you see as a broad wide road to heaven is in reality a deep river filled with crocodiles”. Now it’s your choice, you want to find a way to cross the river of misinformation or you want to drown in it.
Name:
Subject: Excellent article
Date: Wednesday May 13, 2009
Time: 22:08:51 -0400
Comment
Excellent article! "Despotism comes quite natural to Islamic culture." So true! Allah is the worst despot. Also it is not uncommon in Islamic culture to betray or kill their own parents, their own children and their own siblings in order to save their skins from Islamic hell. As an aside, here is a forum to post your comments: www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam
Name: Archpagan
Subject:
Date: Wednesday May 13, 2009
Time: 23:36:53 -0400
Comment
Muslims are more receptive to the language of sword than to the language of reason.In Muhammad's time there were more than one pretenders to prophethood. So, prophethood of Muhammad had to be decided by the sword. One day we may have to march on to Kaaba and proclaim that Muhammad was a false prophet. Muslims will accept it gladly because that would be in line with their principle Might is truth.
Name: jenn
Subject:
Date: Wednesday May 13, 2009
Time: 23:40:53 -0400
Comment
Hitler and Mohammad were twins. They also had anal sex with devils. so muslims love them.
Name: Malek
Subject: duh_swami
Date: Thursday May 14, 2009
Time: 05:05:57 -0400
Comment
"How about trains, planes and automobiles, not to mention televisions and cellphones...really dark stuff...hot dogs, hamburgers, shoe fly pie and apple pan douty...Elvis...Hollywood, and Barack H Obama...Scary huh...... " hahahahaha u r funny here is equivalent list how about the pollution, cellphone radiation, obesity, junk food... scray stuff huh.... Hirioshima, Nagazaki, ...... George bush, scared yet... I mean you people blew up ur own twin towers just to start a war with the world.... t.t.t.t. what a race of people!
Name: kenmirzz- ex- muslim
Subject: Clashes of civilization
Date: Thursday May 14, 2009
Time: 22:24:41 -0400
Comment
actually life revolve like a cycle. there were times when asian( chinese, indian and persian) achieved the peak of their civilization while other nations were in darkness. now is the age of western civilization on its zenith. we must embrace it. however, the author of above article failed to mention that communism had its root origin from Karl Marx and Friedrich Engel. the chinese (Mao Tse Dong) were mere followers. communism was also an evil product of western civilization. legalism was not only practised in ancient china (first emporer) but ancient egypt(pharaoh) as well. i hope there is no biasness here. humanity is but one family. :)
Name: Roman
Subject: Malek
Date: Monday May 18, 2009
Time: 14:47:11 -0400
Comment
What is wrong about the West's past? I see many great things! What do you know about this past that I don't know? Name me another culture that achieved so much! May be the China before Communism, may be India before Muslim invasion, but not much else, I am afraid...
Name: ha ha ha .....
Subject: islamic culture
Date: Friday May 22, 2009
Time: 01:01:50 -0400
Comment
Sadly, islamic culture was nothing more than Mohammad and his religion only. No music, no picture/drawing, but sex and sex and sex only. Christian's heaven is a place where Christians praise the Lord forever, the One True God. But islamic heaven is a place where all moslem can have sex all the time with the houris', forever, ha ha ha .... Islam is a religion for the sex-starving people, just like their prophet, ha ha ha ......
Name: ha ha ha .....
Subject: Malek
Date: Friday May 22, 2009
Time: 01:10:41 -0400
Comment
What modern medicine found by moslem? Even the simplest one, aspirin, was found by a western scientist. What is the contribution of Islam for the modern world? Nothing except terrorism. Remember 9/11? Or Black September? If you said that all the past histories are wrong, then why the moslem do the same thing? If Nagasaki was wrong, then why moslem did the 9/11? The bombing of hotels around the world? Or embassies? The burning of several churches in Indonesia? Don't tell me they were done by other sect of moslem. They were done by Moslem.
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Subject: Mahound's/Islam's Cultural and Scientific Contributions to the World?
Date: Friday May 22, 2009
Time: 01:26:45 -0400
Comment
Headbanging on the ground, for 30+ minutes, five times a day, until one's forehead is "beautifully dented" with the mark of mahoundian's utter inferiority, like Ayman al-Zawahiri's and Saudi Arabia's Mutawaeen's. But it sure isn't rocket science to discover that there will eventually be physical damage if one repeatedly hits their forehead against any hard surface for an extended period of time, is it?